https://neospring.org/+r/7699aebc1c I found the link in moon's cc https://curiouscat.live/aestasmoon/post/1363260355

https://neospring.org/+r/8456986a80 I don't know if you're serious or not, but he won't become china's public enemy #1 or get blacklisted just because he's gay. The younger generation is way more accepting of lgbt folks and even adults no longer give too much of a fuck as long as the gay in question isn't their son or daughter lmao. That being said, homophobes exist everywhere and he'll get hate, but it won't ruin his career. The only way he could get blacklisted is if he commits a crime (being gay isn't illegal in china) or says he hates the CCP. Another case where the gp could hate him without him being blacklisted is if he visits the Yasukuni shrine in Japan or says something really offensive about one of china's historical days or says he supports Taiwan independence. Other than that? He'll be fine. Take Cai Xukun for example, he got one of his fans pregnant, paid the girl to abort the baby and his mother harassed the girl like a lunatic for "ruining his baby's life", but that man is fine. He lost some fans, but his fandom is still huge and he got announced as the new BA of Versace. There are rumors that he has secret babies with other women, but his fans are very good at ignoring that. So no, Hao's career won't end just because he's gay. You also talked about 8stars as if it was the end of the world, but that's just what a regular weibo fanwar looks like. If you think that's bad, then Xiao Zhan's 227 incident would make you cry. XZ's was the biggest incident with boycotts from multiple fandoms and even regular young adults, and I guess you could say it was on a national level since even news channels talked about it, but he survived the storm and is one of the biggest stars of china today. So, again, Hao will be fine. Besides, crosins have "proof" that Hao also likes girls because he once said on weibo that he "wanted to be more handsome so more girls could like him". So, at the end of the day, they can always use that to "debunk" the allegations even if he's actually gay. He'll always have that as a shield.

what ollie thing? scandal? I'm out of loop

https://neospring.org/+r/708e24472f I'm not undermining Yuehua, I'm criticizing Duhua. There's a reason cfans (crosins included) hate her guts, even the fans of Wang Yibo, who is undeniably Yuehua's biggest star, hate her and hope he doesn't renew his contract in 2026. Out of 8 cn schedules Hao had (I'm not counting the fanmeeting), 6 were invitations, so that leaves AH+ and Keep Running. AH+ thanked Yuehua for the collaboration in a xhs post, so that confirms Yuehua had something to do with it. Now, for the sake of the argument, let's say Keep Running was also a Yuehua schedule. That's 2. I'm not expecting him to be a fixed cast in a chinese show because that'd be impossible, I was just comparing the differences between Ollie and Hao's resources. Again, he doesn't need to be a fixed guest, he could go as a regular guest like in Keep Running. Maybe he will be promoted properly in china after zb1 disbands, but as things are now, he's not being treated as "the next Wang Yibo" by Duhua, that would be Ollie. Is she dumb for choosing Ollie as her next it boy? Yes. Will she change her mind after all of his scandals? Let's hope so, she cancelled some of his activities and put him on hiatus for a few weeks, but I heard he's promoting again, so...

https://neospring.org/+r/2969d0f684 I'm none of these anons but am I the only one who sees him succeeding in Korea? I constantly lurk kside on kforums and ksocial media and out of all the members Ricky and Yujin are the ones reaching the Korean gp with positive engagements whereas most member's reach is within the fandom (I'm a Rosin but I'm trying to have an objective conversation so you akgaes please kindly f off). I don't know how often you go on requeefiem's cc but they've talked about Ricky going viral on Theqoo multiple times for his fashion sense and Theqoo is known to be hateful towards anything Chinese yet they were praising and even respecting him for his commitment and dedication knowing he's Chinese and this wasn't just a one time thing he went viral multiple times already.

But what I haven't seen being talked about is he also goes viral on Korean IG reels and YT shorts for his visuals and fashion sense but that's because our social media is adjusted to our location but I use vpn so I get to see what Koreans actually see and Ricky's engagement with non fans/ korean gp is crazy. His isac appearance got him 2.5 millions views on IG reels in Korea recently. So it's not like Koreans don't like him or his visuals, they do and are clearly interested but the interest have no where to go because he's not pushed and his content is limited which is why I can see him succeeding if after ZB1 he signs with a Korean company that will actually push him in the right ways to get the interest to stick.

Same for Japan and it's why I'm interested to see how their Japan comeback is going to go since it's Lapone making the decisions instead of Wakeone (I think). Japan gp is obviously intrigued with his visuals, that viral FTP era fansign pic with 122k likes, his recent Korean concert pic with 60k likes and his Japanese variety clips always go viral on jside. I know they'll push GunHaoMatt because they're the most popular in Japan but I wonder what they'll do with Ricky since his fandom isn't the biggest but has gp reach.

https://neospring.org/+r/c73c3400c1 hmmm idk I feel like Chinese entertainment/ fashion industry is too controlling for Ricky. He seems free spirited and stubborn in a positive way in what he likes and wants to pursue. I just remember their first kcon appearance in Japan where staff made him wear a shirt untucked and he was struggling to not tuck in his shirt the entire time on stage but in the end he ended up tucking it in 😭

were you fashion anon? sorry your @ suddenly popped up in my head when I went to check and found out cc is shutting down but I haven't been on cc for awhile so I want to make sure. And if you are fashion anon do you prefer fashion related question or anything zb1?

If Ricky goes back to China Kris wu's path is a good one to follow (before anyone starts please Ricky is nothing like that sex criminal I'm just talking about career trajectory) Kris had very good fashion resources probably the best out of all the exo members who returned to China, released songs occasionally but not as regularly as idols would in korea and was on varieties that suited him I think he was a rap mentor for something and did acting on the side but not as a main job

https://neospring.org/+r/418bd5ac32 Its performance video still did well so where do we go from here? If random peoples opinions mattered this much all of Zb1 members solo works would be dookie but they arent.

https://neospring.org/+r/50238cd0d7 Opinion: I think stanning a ship but not an individual is nonsensical. I'd rather shippers be honest about who they bias than letting them get stepped on for the sake of "a ship". What are you going to do after disbandment?

Now why do i feel like hanbin only recorded bad boy for his aotm because that song is so not him

https://neospring.org/+r/38e70ae8e2 You guys paint everyone as hater Bad Boy as as song is a dookie

i will be honest the only members i can see doing well after zb1 disbands are hao, hanbin, gunwook and yujin. gunwook only if he leaves his company and debuts in a big 4 company like im praying because he deserves it

I should have learnt from queef. Anonymous comment privileges are off!

General thoughts on Ricky's future? I know people are very concerned with Hao and where he'll go but it's also interesting that Ricky is getting decent Chinese gigs too, he has a mag cover, gucci event, running man, and now an endorsement so quite similar to Hao? I wonder if he'll continue as a kpop idol it also feels like Yuehua's attitude towards him has changed a bit their twitter finally posted about him when he had a mag cover

and Rosins will wonder why everybody dislikes their guts... wonder Why 😑

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I meant the commenter not OP

https://neospring.org/+c/7a045a7bd1

Yall are so disgusting its actually insane. Not to mention the fact that his AOTM got over 10 mil views and yeah you will start talking about ads but even if the video got 3-5 mil views through ads thats still 5 mil views for a performance video. He will have the most opportunities after Zb1 disbands in Korea. Its time to accept that fact.

https://neospring.org/+r/6da1300196 Sorry to anybody that likes Riize but I need them to do bad 😭😭 Where is Han Sohee when you actually need her? She dropped a few things and vanished

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Eh you'd be surprised at the scandals that Chinese celebs have walked away relatively unscathed from or even if it affects them they can still do stuff, unless he does something to get blacklisted by the government (and genuinely as someone quite deep into the zhang hao predebut lore beyond what exists on twt he's ok he hasn't evaded taxes or anything similar) he should be fine

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Wait why do I see Ricky targeting bay area asians too he could go down a similar path to keshi or join smthing like 88rising

Honestly these would be my ideal post zb1 careers for the members: -Hanbin: I mean he clearly has a set vision of what he wants to do and is ambitious and I think being a mid size soloist who mcs and takes some variety gigs and eventually goes into acting could fit him well, I think Hanbin wants to be edgier sound wise and he's male so I don't think he'll be big but a decent sized fanbase is good and possible, I'm interested in what he wants to do since he's someone who's very strict with his image we don't know much about his inner thoughts -Hao: ideal career for Hao would definitely be a solo pop star in the west lol but I think he wants to stay in Korea, I think he prefers slower songs but I'd like him with something upbeat and very vocal, something sexy too he's said in the past he's interested in composing so I'm interested in that and if he would want to fully become a producer at some point since he implied it at one point -Gunwook: I want him to have an artsy hip hop album, all rap obviously with some singing hooks etc but fully hip hop with a Boom bap sound, for a more traditionally career I could definitely see him in a group too he's very versatile, I could see him as the leader but I really want a hip hop project from him Ricky: He's definitely the one who will go into fashion but he does seem genuinely interested in music so I'd be interested in what he has to offer, it'll be definitely slow rnb and for some reason I could see it working if he tries to target the bay area Asians lmao

https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1808138485481554326?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1740557507196797406?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1768505577330659475?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1808851635759710540?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1720344599414092138?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1793248431105814862?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1831286145864327562?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1804742136534892623?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1803000980742582765?s=46 https://x.com/zhcharts/status/1792160569752973701?s=46

https://x.com/zhaofairy/status/1793933948025774575?s=46 https://x.com/zhaofairy/status/1808889569556803949?s=46 https://x.com/genius_haobao/status/1808857501296963765?s=46 https://x.com/zhangbaekeok/status/1808854275877130710?s=46 https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1762013587185283169?s=46 https://x.com/newjeansnews_/status/1793929071048716312?s=46 https://x.com/hxorae/status/1793934673074090009?s=46

these are from some of his kr guestings this year only that i could remember at the top of my head went thru one acc my bad 😅 and doesnt even include group ones where he had viral posts too plus his lmj service which is his only solo kr guesting so far (his so bad cover was everywhere 😭😭) wont include the ost anymore its a lot we all know how successful that was @anon

https://neospring.org/+r/8456986a80 If something happens in Korea he should be good since winning a defamation case is the easiest thing ever in Korea which is why you know that April girl was a bully fr😭 the issue is when it comes from overseas

I usually dont like it when idols are cringe (bnd myungjae for example) but it just works with matthew sorry you will never see me hating him