https://neospring.org/+r/14f29a04dd Oh definitely but I feel like in some other companies there's at least some artistic value somewhere like kpop isn't really about the art so no one actually cares about the art of making good albums but sm did make the perfect velvet, hybe teaser photoshoots tend to be really good, jyp I'm sure has some good titles for zb1 there's clearly talent for some of the members and they're very good looking so there's a lot of potential and at least half of the members seem actually passionate about their jobs but wakeone just give.. nothing 😭 which is why it's hard for them to gain new fans